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Maureen Paddy's case came to my notice

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through radio 3aw in Melbourne

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I don't listen to radio very often if I

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can help it

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but on this occasion some member rang me

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and said that there had been a lady

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speaking on the radio for about oh three

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quarters of an hour at that stage who'd

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had a close encounter with a UFO and I

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spoke to Maureen and I actually spoke to

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her for about an hour on the telephone

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and I was intrigued by her report and

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she promised to come and tell us about

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it at the uh and at our general meeting

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which she did

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uh we had a full house there which

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really surprised her and the people

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overflowed out into the foyer and she

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started out by saying that although I

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said these at the moment here these

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encounters occurred in 1972 but were

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never written up in our publication

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until 1983 review

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and Maureen addressed one of our

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quarterly meetings in 1995 and was

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attentively accepted to say the least

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it has been said by some researchers

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who've never even met her that her case

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was an abduction

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but to Paul Norman and myself who

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investigated this one rather thoroughly

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it was certainly not an abduction

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because we were there on the whole of

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the occasions

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and especially the third one her story

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began when her son was injured at school

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when a chest of drawers a library in the

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library fell on him and broke his hip

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and he'd been taken to the hospital by

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the Royal helicopter angel of Mercy

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ambulance and Maureen had just become

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the president of this service

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and while driving home after visiting

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her son in the hospital on the 5th of

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July 1972 she called it her mother's

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home for a cup of tea and a bit of a

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chat

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and she left there about 9 15 p.m taking

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the shortcut along the mirror duck home

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from Frankston and that's the south side

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of Melbourne I don't know how many of

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you know that area

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it's quite a a an open area it's sort of

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semi-country

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and while driving home

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on this occasion she saw a blue light

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which came down over the car and she

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thought it was the helicopter because

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they have a blue light that blinks on

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the underside of it and thinking that

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the helicopter might have a message for

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her she got out of the car and had a

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look at it and she was really quite

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staggered because it was a huge object

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it would have spanned the road that's

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the McAdam strip plus the two side

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pieces on the road which would have made

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it an extremely large

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saucer which would be in about the

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object was possibly in her estimation

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but two telephones poles high and would

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have spanned the strip of road which was

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24 feet wide also taking in the nature

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strips on the either side of the road

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and making this also approximately a

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hundred feet in diameter

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now having already alighted from the car

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she leaned back and took a long look at

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the object and wondered what it was that

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she was seeing

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the object's surface was smooth it had

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no joins all Wells seams or rivets no

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windows or portholes and no wheels

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the huge object was radiating a

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brilliant light or blue light and an

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intense glow and there was no movement

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no wobbling no rotating but a faint

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humming could be heard

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and she noted all these things while

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wondering what sort of aircraft it was

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before fear took took over at which time

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she quickly got back into the car and

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drove off as fast as she could only to

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find the object was maintaining its

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speed just above and behind the car

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no matter how fast you travel the object

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seemed to remain at the same distance

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aware that the blue light was no longer

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with with her and seeing a very bright

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light streak off in the opposite

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direction Mrs Paddy realized that the

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case must uh the chase must have been

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over

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and it followed her for about eight

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minutes or eight miles rather she didn't

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go a minute mile a minute but eight

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miles

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the witness reported a sighting to the

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police at dramana

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and some family members and also some

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friends who considered it all a bit of a

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joke so she decided to do a little bit

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more about it but not until about three

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weeks later

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then on the 25th of July

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and that same year after having visited

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her son again he was there from the

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hospital for some time

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she fired a similar route home had a cup

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of tea with her mother and left again

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about the same time 9 15.

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she arrived at the mirror duck Road

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traveled a short distance of about one

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mile when the blue light once again

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appeared before her and she thought oh

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no not again

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and this time I'm not going to stop and

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she was hanging onto the steering wheel

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and nothing was going to move her from

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that car

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and the car drifted to a stop on the

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side of the road no matter what you did

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to the Holden Car

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it wouldn't reply to her demands

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and she was wondering where do I go from

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here she was rather terrified and

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gripped the wheel and looked out the

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windscreen and saw the object hanging

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silently in the above the car in just in

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front of it and above the car and the

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countryside was bathed in a blue light

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then a voice spoke to her

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not audibly she said but in her head as

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if somebody it was a thought put into

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the head

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and as if words have been put into a

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computer and came out the other end in

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the most beautifully modulated

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and very well spoken English

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uh during this time she experienced the

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most unusual sensation she said if you

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could feel that you've been in a vacuum

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well that was the impression that she

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got that was perfectly still and

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perfectly quiet

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and the message read

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don't be afraid

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as a pause we mean you know harm another

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pause your tests will be negative

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and she'd already had some done and they

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were negative but she thought they

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couldn't have been the ones tell the

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media and along a pause and you are now

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in control

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and at that moment the car started up

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again as if she had turned the key

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now she didn't touch the key at all she

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just sat there she was stunned so the

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car started up because she hadn't turned

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it off they had apparently

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then she stopped at the same police

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station to find it closed then she went

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on to the next one

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and still on her way home

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and she told the police officer that I

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want to report a signing of a flying

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saucer oh yes Madam yes came the reply

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and she insisted in fear and frustration

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so the policeman humored her and gave

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and had it recorded the next morning she

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phoned laverton RAF station and asked if

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they could offer any explanation of what

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she'd seen to which they replied that it

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couldn't have been an aircraft or a

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balloon as neither would have been in

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the area at the time but didn't say as

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it could cause Panic anything that could

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cause panic

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um they would send her a questionnaire

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to complete but when asked about this

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later she said you'd have to have been a

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an astronaut to understood it and I

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believe she didn't bother to return it

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but Paul and I were invited to go

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through the air force files and we

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discovered that she obviously had

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returned it at a later date must have

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thought much better of it

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naturally we questioned Maureen

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regarding her experience in the car and

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what did the messages mean she said

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she'd had not had any recent tests but

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she'd had some about six months before

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and they had proved negative there was

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no use telling her not to be afraid

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because she was terrified

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as for telling the media she phoned

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three or four TV stations and one was

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mildly interested uh and they were

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showing Chariots of the Gods at the time

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and two mate light of the news and she

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did not didn't bother to contact the

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third one or the fourth one and I heard

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through a radio talk back program which

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in desperation she had contacted because

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the UFO nuts had said to contact the

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media and she was not wanting to see

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them again UFO notes I meant not UFO

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and at this stage I'd not actually met

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Maureen that was at night the day I

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spoke to her on the telephone and only

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spoken to her for one hour but when I

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invited her to address one of our

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meetings that we had the national Mutual

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theater at at the time a delightful

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Little Theater app and she agreed to do

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this and we sat her down the front where

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she couldn't see all the people coming

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in and I said well you'd be comfortable

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there and you won't see anybody so when

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she got up to speak she was staggered at

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the number of people that were filling

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the hall and outside into the lobby

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but that Hall was crowded and it was

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very very quiet uh right through the

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whole hour of her talk and even the

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people outside who were standing were

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perfectly quiet

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everybody was thoroughly fascinated

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that time Maureen was put through her

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Paces she did think that what she saw

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was a psychic phenomena

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and did she suffer any Burns or after

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effects

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uh to both these questions the first one

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was did she think it was a psychic

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phenomena and to both the questions she

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answered no did you think there were any

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other Witnesses she thought there must

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have been one at least because as she

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was approaching the railway Crossing she

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saw a man with a torch leading a car

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across the railroad and surely the UFO

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must have passed it over him

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um

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that would have been going in the same

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direction so he may not have seen it

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later the man's wife contacted her and

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also another lady living on the ridge

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the Range Ridge there who'd seen a light

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coming across the road both had seen

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the third experience was purely a

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psychic experience

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and this happened about six months later

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there was one Wednesday evening I'd

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received a phone call from a rather

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agitated Maureen

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who said she'd been trying to contact

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two other Representatives

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probably a good thing that she couldn't

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contact them because she may have had to

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have gone public

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and I don't think she really wanted that

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she was quite happy to speak at our

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meeting but not to go public in Media or

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Publications

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for some days she'd been hearing a voice

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calling to her Noreen Maureen returned

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to the meeting place and it didn't

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matter where she went she could hear

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this voice

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she heard it at the front door and she

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went to answer the door and the husband

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said who was that because the husband

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was in a wheelchair at this stage she

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was he was an invalid and had been for

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some time and she said there was nobody

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there

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she went up shopping and turned around

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to hear somebody who'd been saying

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Maureen Maureen returned to the meeting

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place and this was getting on her nerves

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a bit I think she was getting a little

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bit worried as she was going shopping

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that day

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and she felt that she had to go to the

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meeting place and was too scared to go

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alone

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so when she rang my number I told Paul

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and off we both trotted that night we

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took our supper with us and went off in

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his car down to meet Maureen at the

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meeting place

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we said we'd wait to see her at an

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electrical substation which was right

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opposite where we were going to be

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and she came along about well half past

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eight and rather agitatedly dashed over

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from her car to ours and

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we were there you know really quite

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early we're still I think only just

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light

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and she came over rushing over and

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saying I nearly went off the road back

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there

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um and I said well I suggest you tell us

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all about it when we drive to the

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meeting place

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so she said that there was um before

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going further I should perhaps add that

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as I entered her car to go away to the

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meeting place I had an odd feeling when

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I touched the Electric electrical the

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the electrical experience when I touched

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the door of her car and I got a sort of

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an electric shock which probably

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wouldn't have been unusual for me

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because

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I thought maybe some being somewhere

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near the substation it might have had an

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effect on the car and touching the metal

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handle might have had an effect of a

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slightly electric shock on myself

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however I got into the car

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and I said she told me that there was a

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little man sitting there when she'd cut

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Turn Around the Corner up there and I

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said is he still there and I thought

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well if he is I'm sitting on him

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and she said no he's he went when I got

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out of the car when she got out of the

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car

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and uh

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sorry

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and that she was quite she was really

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quite shocked at this and he got out of

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the car he was like a little uh a little

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man she said but in a tinsel type suit

352
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he was silvery and he was

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described as in sitting exactly where I

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was which was quite close to her in the

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middle of the seat because I thought

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Paul was going to come in with us and

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I'd moved in but he wasn't there and I

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couldn't visualize it I had no idea I

359
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mean I might have a very good

360
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imagination at times but it didn't run

361
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to that extent

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and when we got back to the meeting

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place which was a little drive off among

364
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some trees Paul got into the back of her

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car and uh I was sitting in the front

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with her still

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and we were talking about the latest

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incident when she grabbed my arm and and

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shook me and she's pointed across and

370
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she said there he is can't you see him

371
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and can't you see him and she's sitting

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there shaking me like billio

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and I tried to explain to her that it

374
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was possibly like um closed circuit

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television from them to her

376
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and she said he was coming closer to the

377
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car in fact he was so close that had I

378
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put my arm out I could possibly touch

379
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him

380
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and I was edging closer to her because

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um she said that he wanted to to get out

382
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of the car and I said well come on I'll

383
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come with you and she wasn't going to

384
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get out anywhere she was hanging onto

385
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that steering wheel she wasn't going to

386
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move

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so we asked Paul if he would get out of

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the car Brave Paul

389
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and walk around the car to see what the

390
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entity would do and and he did he was

391
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brave enough to do it and I said to

392
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Maureen what's the entity doing Maureen

393
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and she said he's taken a step back to

394
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let Paul get between the car and himself

395
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so uh and she had a bit adamantly

396
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declared she still wasn't going to get

397
00:15:50,449 --> 00:15:47,699
out of it so uh

398
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I tried still trying to gently ease her

399
00:15:55,790 --> 00:15:53,760
out of the car anyway the entity then

400
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became impatient and he started to walk

401
00:16:04,850 --> 00:15:59,940
away or move away and disappeared behind

402
00:16:08,210 --> 00:16:04,860
some Thin some Thin bushes there and uh

403
00:16:09,949 --> 00:16:08,220
she suddenly commenced describing the

404
00:16:11,449 --> 00:16:09,959
interior of the object she said oh I'm

405
00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:11,459
inside the object

406
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and

407
00:16:22,490 --> 00:16:19,800
there pointing to a large mushroom-like

408
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thing like object in the center of the

409
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circular room it was a huge circular

410
00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:27,959
room she said couldn't see any doors or

411
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Windows or anything

412
00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:32,220
the center object which was taller than

413
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an average person

414
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was a bit like a jelly she said the

415
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first part was a bit like a clock you

416
00:16:44,749 --> 00:16:41,279
know the Roman numerals all the way

417
00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:44,759
around it and uh there's another part of

418
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it interior part which seemed to be

419
00:16:50,870 --> 00:16:48,899
moving like a jelly so

420
00:16:53,689 --> 00:16:50,880
I asked her if it was

421
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um like a gyroscope and she said what's

422
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a gyroscope

423
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Well we'd asked her that later on and

424
00:17:01,370 --> 00:16:59,639
she had no idea what a gyroscope was so

425
00:17:02,110 --> 00:17:01,380
we went on with this she said there were

426
00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:02,120
like

427
00:17:07,069 --> 00:17:05,280
Roman numerals apparently looking around

428
00:17:09,530 --> 00:17:07,079
the room she became very agitated

429
00:17:11,929 --> 00:17:09,540
started to cry and I put my arm around

430
00:17:13,970 --> 00:17:11,939
her shoulder and she said I can't get

431
00:17:16,250 --> 00:17:13,980
out I can't get out there are no doors

432
00:17:18,770 --> 00:17:16,260
or Windows I can't get out and that was

433
00:17:21,049 --> 00:17:18,780
her great fear at the time she was in

434
00:17:22,610 --> 00:17:21,059
this UFO and couldn't get out she didn't

435
00:17:23,689 --> 00:17:22,620
realize she was still sitting there with

436
00:17:28,549 --> 00:17:23,699
me

437
00:17:30,650 --> 00:17:28,559
and she was really upset and clearly and

438
00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:30,660
I clearly visualized what she was

439
00:17:34,970 --> 00:17:32,640
telling us as if there was a picture in

440
00:17:36,650 --> 00:17:34,980
front of us I knew exactly what she was

441
00:17:38,930 --> 00:17:36,660
describing she said the little man was

442
00:17:41,810 --> 00:17:38,940
standing there pointing pointing to this

443
00:17:44,990 --> 00:17:41,820
object and she was watching and didn't

444
00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:45,000
take her eyes off it so I decided

445
00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:47,039
because she was so upset and agitated

446
00:17:50,270 --> 00:17:48,960
that I was getting a bit concerned about

447
00:17:51,890 --> 00:17:50,280
it because I could feel her tears

448
00:17:55,310 --> 00:17:51,900
falling down onto my hand which was

449
00:17:56,510 --> 00:17:55,320
around her shoulders and I directed my

450
00:17:58,370 --> 00:17:56,520
thoughts to them and I thought well I

451
00:18:00,529 --> 00:17:58,380
got nothing to lose and I thought well

452
00:18:03,470 --> 00:18:00,539
you know I'm fearful for her state of

453
00:18:05,930 --> 00:18:03,480
health if you can help her please do

454
00:18:08,930 --> 00:18:05,940
and um you got her into this state so

455
00:18:10,730 --> 00:18:08,940
get her out of it and

456
00:18:12,770 --> 00:18:10,740
I felt she might have had a nervous

457
00:18:16,250 --> 00:18:12,780
breakdown or a stroke or something she

458
00:18:18,470 --> 00:18:16,260
was just so upset and uh

459
00:18:20,930 --> 00:18:18,480
anyway they said that she said they

460
00:18:23,330 --> 00:18:20,940
wanted her to close her eyes and I said

461
00:18:24,590 --> 00:18:23,340
well go ahead and she said no I'm not

462
00:18:26,810 --> 00:18:24,600
going to close my eyes and you know when

463
00:18:30,470 --> 00:18:26,820
you blink you have no

464
00:18:32,270 --> 00:18:30,480
you have no idea of blinking because you

465
00:18:33,890 --> 00:18:32,280
do it so naturally so she obviously

466
00:18:36,289 --> 00:18:33,900
blinked and then I could feel her relax

467
00:18:38,810 --> 00:18:36,299
and she must have gone out

468
00:18:40,549 --> 00:18:38,820
into a sort of a trance or a coma or

469
00:18:43,310 --> 00:18:40,559
whatever you like to call it

470
00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:43,320
and then she began again to describe the

471
00:18:47,510 --> 00:18:45,600
interior of the object and she still

472
00:18:48,650 --> 00:18:47,520
could see no way out and she was still

473
00:18:51,470 --> 00:18:48,660
upset

474
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and after a brief period She sort of

475
00:18:55,250 --> 00:18:53,700
came back to us she relaxed and she said

476
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oh I'm back again

477
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and um

478
00:19:01,909 --> 00:18:59,520
I said to Paul well let's have this cup

479
00:19:04,010 --> 00:19:01,919
of tea we had a cup of tea with us and

480
00:19:06,110 --> 00:19:04,020
we'll discuss it further and see what

481
00:19:08,330 --> 00:19:06,120
else we can make out of this

482
00:19:10,490 --> 00:19:08,340
and see what you can get uh see if

483
00:19:12,770 --> 00:19:10,500
Maureen can remember anything extra

484
00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:12,780
so we put the lights on and we got the

485
00:19:15,890 --> 00:19:14,880
thermos flask out and handed more in a

486
00:19:17,930 --> 00:19:15,900
cup of tea

487
00:19:19,490 --> 00:19:17,940
and she's all of a sudden really even

488
00:19:22,250 --> 00:19:19,500
with a cup of tea in her hand she said

489
00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:22,260
oh I'm back in there again and she

490
00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:24,480
started describing it again

491
00:19:27,590 --> 00:19:26,400
and repeated the whole description all

492
00:19:29,930 --> 00:19:27,600
over again

493
00:19:32,450 --> 00:19:29,940
and after a little while

494
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she said more calmly

495
00:19:39,049 --> 00:19:33,900
he's gone

496
00:19:42,110 --> 00:19:39,059
feeling's different it's gone completely

497
00:19:44,810 --> 00:19:42,120
he's gone it feels different so now she

498
00:19:47,690 --> 00:19:44,820
came back to normal again

499
00:19:49,070 --> 00:19:47,700
and everything seemed quite normal so we

500
00:19:51,529 --> 00:19:49,080
went on with our supper and discussing

501
00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:51,539
the mushroom and I was trying to

502
00:19:56,690 --> 00:19:54,240
identify it because

503
00:19:59,090 --> 00:19:56,700
um she wasn't very technically minded

504
00:20:01,130 --> 00:19:59,100
and I asked if it was like a gyroscope

505
00:20:03,350 --> 00:20:01,140
but Maureen was apparently unfamiliar

506
00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:03,360
with that to him I'd only come into the

507
00:20:07,610 --> 00:20:06,000
the met the term because I was working

508
00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:07,620
with an airline and they took us through

509
00:20:12,049 --> 00:20:09,120
all the

510
00:20:14,570 --> 00:20:12,059
the area where they used to do up the

511
00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:14,580
aircraft and and go over all these

512
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:15,360
things

513
00:20:19,010 --> 00:20:17,760
so I knew what what it was and she

514
00:20:21,650 --> 00:20:19,020
picked up a little Gadget off the

515
00:20:24,289 --> 00:20:21,660
dashboard and said would this be like it

516
00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:24,299
and to my astonishment it was one of

517
00:20:28,850 --> 00:20:26,400
those tiny little compasses that people

518
00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:28,860
have stuck on their dashboard and she

519
00:20:33,470 --> 00:20:31,200
said that was almost identical to the

520
00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:33,480
mushroom that she'd been viewing and it

521
00:20:36,590 --> 00:20:35,520
sticks on the this little one sticks on

522
00:20:38,690 --> 00:20:36,600
the dashboard you know with a suction

523
00:20:40,610 --> 00:20:38,700
cup

524
00:20:42,289 --> 00:20:40,620
um I hadn't seen one before and I

525
00:20:44,830 --> 00:20:42,299
haven't seen one since

526
00:20:48,830 --> 00:20:44,840
but we didn't let her drive home alone

527
00:20:50,270 --> 00:20:48,840
and she didn't wish to go either on her

528
00:20:51,650 --> 00:20:50,280
own because she was afraid that they

529
00:20:53,390 --> 00:20:51,660
might come back again

530
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:53,400
and she didn't want another visit from

531
00:20:58,190 --> 00:20:55,440
her friends so called

532
00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:58,200
all the nerves on the part of the drive

533
00:21:01,669 --> 00:20:59,280
she thought she might have had an

534
00:21:03,230 --> 00:21:01,679
accident or something so I drove in her

535
00:21:05,029 --> 00:21:03,240
car and Paul followed us and we went

536
00:21:07,250 --> 00:21:05,039
further down the line further away from

537
00:21:10,970 --> 00:21:07,260
home and I believe at this time that it

538
00:21:13,310 --> 00:21:10,980
was about oh 10 30 or 11 o'clock when we

539
00:21:15,350 --> 00:21:13,320
got down to her home

540
00:21:17,210 --> 00:21:15,360
um we didn't really take that much

541
00:21:20,450 --> 00:21:17,220
notice of the time but it was about that

542
00:21:23,630 --> 00:21:20,460
time and of course the events went

543
00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:23,640
through the the air again the her

544
00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:25,440
husband was there and we made a cup of

545
00:21:36,770 --> 00:21:33,710
and I was able was I able to communicate

546
00:21:38,149 --> 00:21:36,780
with the entity when he said to close

547
00:21:41,690 --> 00:21:38,159
her eyes

548
00:21:43,549 --> 00:21:41,700
did I really communicate with him uh did

549
00:21:45,950 --> 00:21:43,559
they receive my thoughts regarding her

550
00:21:47,630 --> 00:21:45,960
agitated State this is just my own our

551
00:21:50,330 --> 00:21:47,640
own thoughts after this

552
00:21:52,490 --> 00:21:50,340
if so what thoughts can they receive

553
00:21:55,250 --> 00:21:52,500
from more important and delicate

554
00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:55,260
situations than that particular one

555
00:22:01,610 --> 00:21:57,840
can they transmit to us can we transmit

556
00:22:05,090 --> 00:22:01,620
to them I do believe that as science has

557
00:22:07,490 --> 00:22:05,100
gone on in those since those years of

558
00:22:10,549 --> 00:22:07,500
course naturally we can communicate a

559
00:22:12,669 --> 00:22:10,559
lot more easily with uh in in so many

560
00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:12,679
various ways

561
00:22:18,890 --> 00:22:16,080
and I thought perhaps at this stage that

562
00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:18,900
have you ever watched a hypnotist on on

563
00:22:23,210 --> 00:22:21,360
a stage you know at work when they get a

564
00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:23,220
whole lot of people there and they can

565
00:22:26,630 --> 00:22:24,120
either

566
00:22:28,669 --> 00:22:26,640
I can't hypnotize you or come on I can

567
00:22:31,130 --> 00:22:28,679
hypnotize you and they get up there and

568
00:22:35,390 --> 00:22:31,140
they put them under as we say

569
00:22:37,310 --> 00:22:35,400
and when I snap my fingers you will go

570
00:22:38,930 --> 00:22:37,320
into a deeper trance or you'll come out

571
00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:38,940
of it and or you'll do such and such a

572
00:22:44,570 --> 00:22:40,799
thing

573
00:22:46,669 --> 00:22:44,580
was this second or third case the time

574
00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:46,679
when they snap their fingers at Maureen

575
00:22:52,190 --> 00:22:49,440
putty and she went along and went into

576
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:52,200
this so-called trance and visualized the

577
00:23:02,090 --> 00:22:59,690
um was the second meeting of that such

578
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:02,100
case in her car just prior to speaking

579
00:23:07,070 --> 00:23:04,799
to her was at the time when they perhaps

580
00:23:09,470 --> 00:23:07,080
snapped their fingers then

581
00:23:12,289 --> 00:23:09,480
that if you could be in a vacuum then

582
00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:12,299
I've been in one such an incident

583
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:15,120
there was no sound there was no movement

584
00:23:20,029 --> 00:23:18,000
all was calm and quiet then the voice

585
00:23:21,649 --> 00:23:20,039
delivered the message was the third

586
00:23:24,289 --> 00:23:21,659
incident due to the snapping of the

587
00:23:28,130 --> 00:23:24,299
fingers when they urged her to act

588
00:23:31,370 --> 00:23:28,140
if this is so how many people can they

589
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:31,380
hypnotize I'll put it their way perhaps

590
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:34,559
in their sleep so we react when they

591
00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:36,720
wish us to or whenever they snap their

592
00:23:39,950 --> 00:23:37,679
fingers

593
00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:39,960
I find this a very sobering thought

594
00:23:44,570 --> 00:23:42,720
perhaps some of the abductions are the

595
00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:44,580
result of this snapping of the fingers